Problem: 80GPM of 60 degree water is pumped from 100 feet below the surface of a lake to a storage tank, a 100 feet above ground, through 400 feet of 3-inch...
Given: 80GPM of 60 degree water is pumped from 100 feet below the surface of a lake to a storage tank, a 100 feet above grou...
Approach: Let's draw ourselves a little lake here and it says it's being pumped from the bottom so we can create some state 1 that's righ...
Calc: Let's draw ourselves a little lake here and it says it's being pumped from the bottom so we can create some state 1 that's righ...
Calc: And let's say that the top of that tank is state 2 and we know a couple things about the heights.
Result: So let's find the actual diameter from the steel pipe friction tables for a 3 inch pipe the diameter is actually 3.068 inches which if you divide t...
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OH 16: 4. FLUIDS-22
Q: How do you know you can use Q·ΔH/3960 for problem 22, and what does the 'at 68°F water has density 62.3' statement mean—does it refer to air temperature?
A: The 68°F refers to water temperature, not air—density is a function of water temperature, and at 68°F water's density is approximately 62.3 lb/ft³. The slight difference between 62.3 and the commonly used 62.4 is negligible for most problems and won't affect the answer choice. The formula Q·ΔH/3960 is appropriate here because you're dealing with water.
OH 35: HVAC: Fluids-22
Q: Can you explain why P1 is 100 feet of water plus 1 ATM, why not 200 feet? Also, why does the Hazen-Williams equation give a different friction loss result?
A: P1 is at the bottom of the 100-foot-deep lake, so it's the atmosphere pushing down plus 100 feet of water column sitting on that point—the 200-foot elevation difference is handled by the Z term in Bernoulli, not the static pressure term. For friction loss, I'd only reach for the Hazen-Williams equation if the problem specifically gives the C value or asks you to use it; otherwise the Darcy equation or steel pipe friction tables are preferable. The deviation you saw between methods (8.4 vs. 8.1 feet) is trivially small relative to the 200-foot total head, so it doesn't affect the answer.
OH 46: HVAC: Fluids-22
Q: I went straight for ΔP = (P2−P1)/γ to find the head added by the pump—why doesn't that approach work?
A: That approach finds only the static pressure difference, not the total head the pump must add—it's missing the elevation change and friction losses, which are often the dominant terms. Any time there's a pump, you need the full Bernoulli equation with the head-added term: HA = (P2−P1)/γ + (V2²−V1²)/2g + (Z2−Z1) + HF. The static pressure difference alone is just one piece of the story.
OH 64: HVAC: Fluids Module #22
Q: When time is critical, is it really necessary to use the exact inside diameter from the steel pipe friction tables rather than the nominal size?
A: My general guidance is an 8-inch cutoff: for pipes 8 inches or larger, rounding to nominal diameter is fine; for smaller pipes, the difference between nominal and actual can be significant because it gets squared in the area calculation and directly affects velocity. The concern isn't rushing—it's maintaining accuracy on the problems where precision actually matters. Don't let exam anxiety push you to skip details that could change the answer choice.
OH 75: HVAC: Fluids Module #22-1
Q: When calculating P1 from the reference line, why do we add 100 feet of water to it, but when calculating P2 we don't add 100 feet of air above it?
A: The reference line is arbitrary—once chosen, the pressure at each state is just the column of fluid sitting on that point. P1 is at the bottom of a 100-foot lake, so it has 100 feet of water plus atmosphere pushing down on it; P2 is at the top of an elevated tank, with essentially just one atmosphere (100 feet of air pressure is negligible—about 0.003 ATM). In the delta P subtraction, the atmosphere cancels, and you're left with the net 100-foot water column difference that the pump must overcome.
OH 75: HVAC: Fluids Module #22-2
Q: How do you rearrange the Bernoulli equation to solve for the head added by the pump (H_A)—isn't H_A the same as head loss?
A: H_A is the head added by a pump, which is very different from head loss H_F—don't confuse them. Without a pump, Bernoulli balances both sides with friction losses on the downstream side; adding a pump introduces an energy input term on the inlet side, which rearranges to: HA = (P2−P1)/γ + (V2²−V1²)/2g + (Z2−Z1) + HF. If there's no pump, HA disappears and you're back to the standard Bernoulli equation with losses.
OH 92: HVAC: Fluids Module #22
Q: When should you use the Darcy-Weisbach equation to find friction loss versus the head loss per 100 feet from the steel piping table?
A: They lead to the same or approximately the same result, so it's your choice—most engineers prefer the steel pipe friction tables for speed when dealing with water in steel pipe. That said, know the Darcy equation thoroughly because if the problem involves a non-steel pipe, you'll be forced to use it. When comparing methods, think about absolute error rather than relative error: a 50% relative difference in a small loss term may be completely insignificant relative to the total system head.
OH 96: HVAC: Fluids Module #22
Q: Why is P1 equal to 100 feet of water when we already factor in the 100 feet in the Z term—isn't that double-counting?
A: These are two separate things: the static pressure at a point is how much fluid column is sitting on it (100 feet of lake water plus atmosphere), while the elevation term Z captures the physical height difference between where you're pumping from and to (200 feet total). They're not the same—don't conflate static pressure with elevation pressure. In the delta P subtraction, atmosphere cancels, leaving just −100 feet as the static pressure contribution, while the elevation term adds +200 feet: the net work the pump must do is 100 feet, which makes intuitive sense.
OH 103: HVAC: Fluids Module #22
Q: Can you explain how the hydrostatic pressure at state 1 at the bottom of the lake helps push water from the bottom to the top?
A: Think of it like a seesaw: the 100-foot column of water sitting on the pump inlet is pushing down and helping the pump, while the pump has to overcome 200 feet of elevation on the other side. The net effect is that the pump only has to supply the additional 100 feet of head—the lake depth helps cancel part of the elevation requirement. Interestingly, it doesn't matter where you locate the pump in the system; the required delta P works out the same regardless.